“Heartbreakers” Rewatch: When Lies Lead to Love

💕 To continue our Mother’s Day celebration, this week we’re watching the 2001 romantic crime comedy, Heartbreakers. Sigourney Weaver and Jennifer Love Hewitt play a mother-daughter con team who seduce and scam wealthy men, but their plans go awry when they fall in love for real. 💰

🎥 This movie stars Sigourney Weaver (Max Conners/Angela/Ulga), Jennifer Love Hewitt (Page Conners), Gene Hackman (William B. Tensy), Ray Liotta (Dean Cumanno), Jason Lee (Jack Withrowe), Anne Bancroft (Barbara), Nora Dunn (Miss Madress), Sarah Silverman (Linda), Zach Galifianakis (Bill), and Ricky Jay (Dawson's Auctioneer). Written by Robert Dunn, Paul Guay, and Stephen Mazur. Directed by David Mirkin.

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Transcript

Sarah: Hi Love Bugs, i'm Sarah and 
 
 Hadley: I'm Hadley. 
 
 Sarah: To continue our Mother's Day celebration this week we're watching the 2001 romantic crime comedy Heartbreakers. Sigourney Weaver and Jennifer Love Hewitt play a mother-daughter con team who seduce and scam wealthy men, but their plans go awry when they fall in love for real. 
 
 Hadley: Sigourney Weaver's character is named Max, but they never say that in the film. 
 
 Sarah: What I thought her name was. 
 
 Hadley: Angela, yeah, i did too. That was her con name And when I was looking up things I kept saying Max Connors and I was like who's Max Connors? And her name's Max Connors, apparently, but they only ever refer to her as Angela Miss Connors or by her Russian name. 
 
 Sarah: My gosh. I watched this movie in two parts and I called her Angela for a little bit the first part, but then by the second half I was just calling her the mom. I can't believe they never said her name. I know I want to go over what you know Sigourney Weaver and Jennifer Love Hewitt from the most, because I know Sigourney Weaver from Holes and I love that movie. 
 
 Hadley: I love Holes. I know her from Holes Alien Ghostbusters. There's something else I know her from, but I can't remember The original Ghostbusters Avatar. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, oh, i forgot she was an Avatar. 
 
 Hadley: I did a deep dive. I don't know if I've ever seen another Jennifer Love Hewitt movie or show or anything. 
 
 Sarah: You didn't watch Ghost Whisperer. I was really into that TV show. I think there was a while where I would come home from school and watch Ghost Whisperer and I think Charmed They were back to back. I don't know that I've seen anything else of hers. 
 
 Hadley: I feel like she's such a name, though Like at least, growing up, everyone knew who she was. 
 
 Sarah: Oh, just kidding, I have seen. I know what you did last summer. That movie haunted me. I definitely had nightmares about that, like someone chasing me with a little hook hand. 
 
 Hadley: This cast is full of people who are in everything. 
 
 Sarah: What is Dean from, because he looks so familiar. 
 
 Hadley: He's Ray Liotta. He's in a movie that I really want to see called Fool's Paradise that just came out. He was in Goodfellas recently in Cocaine Bear. 
 
 Sarah: I've been hearing so much about Cocaine Bear lately. I know me too. 
 
 Hadley: I've got to watch it. He's been in a lot of things Field of Dreams, hannibal. I didn't realize what he looked like young. When I saw him younger I was like, oh, i do recognize him from something, but I couldn't figure out what. And then we've got Jason Lee who plays Jack. 
 
 Sarah: Who was in My Name is Earl I was giving very much Ryan Reynolds vibes in this movie. 
 
 Hadley: It's funny you say that because Ryan Reynolds, I guess, was one of the people being considered to play Jack. 
 
 Sarah: I can't even pinpoint what it was. It was just very Ryan Reynolds-esque. 
 
 Hadley: I could see that. I hadn't thought about that, but I could totally see that I guess Paul Walker, nester Carbinelle, will Smith, tateg Keanu Reeves, johnny Depp, ryan Reynolds and Stephen Dorf were considered for Jack. 
 
 Sarah: That is a wide variety of characters, yeah. 
 
 Hadley: It was the same for people considered for the other characters too. For Page, they were considering Cameron Diaz, alicia Silverstone, sarah Michelle Geller, alyssa Milano, and then for the mom, they were considering Glenn Close, kathy Moriarty, cher and Angelica Houston, who played Morticia Adams in the 1991 Adams family. 
 
 Sarah: Well, i'm happy about their casting choices, because Sigourney and Jennifer Love were great They were. 
 
 Hadley: The movie was supposed to start filming in 1997. They originally had the director Doug Liman, who directed Go and Swingers, but it took a while for them to start filming and David Merkin ended up directing it, who directed Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion, and he's in the movie too. He's Jack's lawyer later on, and I guess Norman Reedus, who plays Daryl Dixon in Walking Dead, turned down the role of Jack also. 
 
 Sarah: Interesting. I don't see him as a heartthrob Me neither. I mean not that I really see Jason Lee as a heartthrob either, But I feel like Jason Lee is like perfect for this. He has a very different vibe than the guy from the Walking Dead. There was so much that happened in this movie. 
 
 Hadley: I know I kept thinking, oh, there's more, there's more because I've never seen it before. And then, when it ended, i was like wait, i wanted more. 
 
 Sarah: Same. There were so many scenes The amount of 10-second scenes in this movie and like jumping back and forth between scenes. there was a lot. 
 
 Hadley: Was it Sloane who talked about how, in this time period, there were so many different sets and scenes and movies And this felt like a perfect example of it We start on. Apparently her name is Max Connor. We start on her wedding to Dean Rayliota. 
 
 Sarah: I am obsessed with the gown and cape that she wore. 
 
 Hadley: Everything about her wedding outfit was wild. I loved the outfit, but later, when she like undoes two buttons, she rips it off. She takes off a few buttons and it's just all lace lingerie. But over other lingerie. When he cuts it off, there's another piece of lingerie underneath. 
 
 Sarah: She was all gussied up, but she also had on a lot of layers to keep Dean out. She did. 
 
 Hadley: So she dances with everyone at the wedding, gets really drunk And Dean carries her upstairs. 
 
 Sarah: I'm running down the hall carrying her for so long. 
 
 Hadley: I know it just keeps going. 
 
 Sarah: It was so funny though. 
 
 Hadley: He's kind of skeezy, but I don't hate Dean. I actually thought he was really funny throughout the movie. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, same And Max at the end are perfect for each other. I actually really like them together. 
 
 Hadley: I'm really happy they ended up together. 
 
 Sarah: Me too. She finally met her match. She falls asleep. He pours ice down his pants. 
 
 Hadley: Instead of waking her up because he considered that so good call Dean. 
 
 Sarah: Oh, I thought he was considering just doing it anyway. 
 
 Hadley: Oh. I thought he was considering pouring the ice on her to wake her up. 
 
 Sarah: Oh, you're right, I was getting him mixed up with Tinsie. Oh gosh, he is so problematic He is. There's a lot to talk about with him. I'm actually very upset that he died before she could get his money. 
 
 Hadley: It would have been nice if she could have. 
 
 Sarah: I like that for the most part, the men that they're conning are disgusting pigs. Yeah, i mean, i know that Jack is different and that's the whole point, but I like that. Out of the 14 marriages that Max has had, it seems like they were all pretty skeezy guys, so I'm okay with it. 
 
 Hadley I feel like Dean turned himself around a little bit, or we got to know him more, so it helped. 
 
 Sarah: Some people just aren't made out for monogamy. I mean you shouldn't get married unless your significant other is also okay with that. As long as you're both on board, i feel like those two could work out some sort of arrangement, like she can still con and he can still hook up with other people and live happily ever after together. Dean goes to work at his chop shop. His assistant is Wendy, which is Page in disguise. He hooks up with Wendy, angela walks in and catches them, carrie Fisher is her lawyer and she gets 300K in the Mercedes. 
 
 Hadley: A really quick fun fact about Jennifer Love You It's Hair getting in the zipper scene. I guess her mom and her grandma were on set that day when she filmed it and she's like, if I can't be comfortable in front of them shooting this movie, i don't know if I want to be filming it. I'm really glad you noticed that they made 300,000, because later she says you made 80, and I was like, wait, i was so confused She lied. 
 
 Sarah: She's constantly conning her daughter too. 
 
 Hadley: I didn't like that I didn't either. I think Dean is very correct later when he's like you guys need therapy. 
 
 Sarah: Mm-hmm Dean. I did not ever think that I was going to agree with him, but he made some points at the end. 
 
 Hadley: Yeah, he did. Max and Page meet up at the gas station and they bamboozled the guy at the gas station to pay for their gas. Max distracts him and Page swipes his credit card. 
 
 Sarah: I love that we get to see all these little cons throughout the movie too, where they literally don't pay for anything, like this gas station scene and when they put glass in their food later. Yeah, that's fantastic. 
 
 Hadley: So there are a lot of driving scenes in this movie, but Sigourney Weaver did not know how to drive and she was very nervous filming this movie. What? I guess she was a New Yorker and never learned how to drive and had to drive for this movie. 
 
 Sarah: That is a really fun fact. My grandma didn't have a driver's license for a long time. 
 
 Hadley: I think I was 18 when I got my license and then I didn't get a car until I was like 21 or 22. 
 
 Sarah: I wish I didn't have to have a car. The upkeep is annoying. It is. Page asks how was the wedding? And Max says beautiful, like all my weddings. I like that little intro to their background. 
 
 Hadley: Me too. They go out to dinner and Max tells Page that they only made 80, and I didn't realize she was conning her. I was like, did I mishear this? I'm going to have to ask Sarah what happened. But the card trick that Jennifer Love Hewitt's doing was taught to her by Ricky J. He also placed the auctioneer, the art auction later, but she was going to do more card tricks and everything throughout the movie, but she broke her finger during the scene where she falls down at the hotel. 
 
 Sarah: Oh my God, it's a shoe, it's a shoe. 
 
 Hadley: It's going to be a card person, i guess, but nope. Jennifer Love Hewitt also does not smoke and finds smokers disgusting. 
 
 Sarah: Same. I've dated a lot of people that smoke and made them all quit. I was like, if we're going to date, you cannot smoke. 
 
 Hadley: Page wants to break off and go solo, and Max is not a fan of this, so she's not ready. 
 
 Sarah: Max is too enmeshed in her relationship with her daughter. 
 
 Hadley: She really projects all of her feelings and hurt in life onto her daughter. It's like she's trying to protect her daughter, but at the same time it's like you're kind of hurting her by not letting her have her own experiences And not everyone who falls in love has the same problems that you had. 
 
 Sarah: It's sad though that that was such an influential experience on her life. You know, Getting her heart broken affected her that much that she had to close off to literally everyone. 
 
 Hadley: But she keeps also going off about how she's so unlucky because she got stuck with a kid And it's like stop telling your child that. Yeah, don't say that to your child. Page has clearly hurt this a lot. It's like my gosh, You clearly like your child, or at least want to be a con artist with her. 
 
 Sarah: They go to the bank to cash out and the IRS is there, which we find out later is not real. 
 
 Hadley: When she showed up, i was like is this someone conning them? Oh, i had no idea. I don't know why. I was suspicious, i don't know what tipped me off, but I was like this seems weird. And I'm like, oh, okay, whatever. Yeah no, i totally fell for this one. They owe $247,811 in taxes, allegedly. 
 
 Sarah: On top of everything that she had already made in the last divorce. I wasn't suspicious of this at all, but I was like that seems like a lot for seven years of taxes. 
 
 Hadley: How much are they making to have to pay that much?
 
 Sarah: But they decided to do one last con, a big one. 
 
 Hadley: Page wants to go to Palm Beach. 
 
 Sarah: Max trips Page in a hotel lobby to get a free room. I loved that con. 
 
 Hadley: I did too. And did you notice Max's hat? It was only the rim. Oh no, i didn't. I'll post a picture of it, but like the part that went over your head kind of wasn't really there, Oh, they get a free suite. 
 
 Sarah: Dean can't stop thinking about her. His worker was onto something when he said maybe it's because she left you and that hasn't happened before I was like spot on. 
 
 Hadley: Thank you for talking about your feelings, fellow worker, or for speculating about his. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, maybe you should leave this chop shop and become a therapist. 
 
 Hadley: Yeah, really, he decides he's going to go find her. Page and Max are going cruising for Richmond. I have so many questions about where they got the boat, how they got the cars, just based off of how they con everyone. I want to know the cons that they used to get those. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, I want to know what cons they're pulling all the time. 
 
 Hadley: Page wants to go after the guy who's very attached to his mother. Max wants to go after Tenzie. so they have a competition to decide who the mark is going to be by trying to get a man to buy them a drink. I thought this was very funny. It was In the end Max coughs and he's like, oh, can I buy you a drink? And they both get up and leave and Page is like jerk. The guy is so confused. It was fantastic. 
 
 Sarah: Page distracts the valet and damages Tenzie's car phone and his headlight. She looks amazing in this pink dress. She does. She dresses very well. Yeah, between this pink dress and I think there's a blue dress later. 
 
 Hadley: She looks great. Her wedding dress made me think of like a doll, though. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, when she walked out in that wedding dress at the fitting and her mom had no comments and was like sweet and loving, i was like are we looking at the same dress? I know? I was like she looks like a tiny little doll, like she's already very small. 
 
 Hadley: That was her one outfit. I wasn't crazy about Same. Also, it was a beach wedding. 
 
 Sarah: That was not a beach wedding dress, no, no. 
 
 Hadley: Well, maybe that's why you didn't go to the ground. I'll give them that but It's a stretch though. 
 
 Sarah: I wanted to see her try on other dresses too, gosh. 
 
 Hadley: I would have loved a dress try on montage. Never opposed to those. 
 
 Sarah: Same. It's classic realm come Exactly. Or, oh my gosh, do you think they conned the shop into giving her the wedding dress? Oh, I hope so. I want to know what con they did to get that dress. 
 
 Hadley: I want to know all the behind the scenes cons Same. 
 
 Sarah: Max walks into the auction with an accent. 
 
 Hadley: Tenzy's there and he's been told to stop smoking, which he's not a fan of, played by Jean Hackman. So Gornie Weaver swaps her auction book with his, so she can see what he's going to bid on. 
 
 Sarah: They have a bidding war, but he has a coughing fit in the middle of it. So her bid wins. Whoops, Big mistake. But she gets out of it By distracting the men carrying the statue and they break the penis off. 
 
 Hadley: That penis was very prominent, franchal, yes, also fragile. 
 
 Sarah: Wait, what did you say Prominent? 
 
 Hadley: Oh yeah, i feel like for art it's stuck out really far. 
 
 Sarah: I am pretty sure that most penises on statues are smaller than that, like in classical art and stuff, but I don't know. Someone had a complex. 
 
 Hadley: Yeah, really. While this is going on, Page decides to go after her own mark, which was the guy whose mom is very attached to him The mama's boy. She gets to the bar and Jason Lee, Zach Galifianakis and Sarah Silverman are there. 
 
 Sarah: I like this trio. I did not remember at all that Zach Galifianakis was in this. 
 
 Hadley: He looked so different and played such a different character than I'm used to him playing too, I liked it. I like seeing when actors that usually play one type of role play a very different type. 
 
 Sarah: I especially like when comedians play a more serious role, like Jim Carrey in Eternal Sunshine of the Spallis Mind. I mean it's like a dark comedy but he's not cracking jokes every two minutes. 
 
 Hadley: Yeah, he's not like Jim Carrey-ing it Like he's got a very distinct comedy style when he's not doing that. Jason Lee, jack wants to get her drink and she is not into it. She's so rude to him. 
 
 Sarah: She's so presumptuous. He walks up and asks if he can get her a drink and she assumes he's like trying to flirt with her. But he's the bartender. Like how embarrassing to assume that he's into you when he's just the bartender. 
 
 Hadley: Really The guy she's after walks in totally ignores her. So she decides to pretend to choke on something. He shows no interest in her because his mom walks in and he's got other things to focus on. And she actually jokes. Jack comes to save her, The olive flies out and hits Mama's boy in the eye who goes home crying with his mom. She's not pleased And then she's super rude to Jack again. 
 
 Sarah: This does show that she's probably not experienced to be doing her own marks yet, But if this is her first time trying, like of course it's not gonna go well, Maybe if Max had allowed her to start practicing sooner she'd be ready by now Exactly. 
 
 Hadley: Let her take the lead. From time to time, mm-hmm Page gets the call that it's time to go lay the trap on the road. 
 
 Sarah: But accidentally pops someone else's tires and it turns out Jack followed her because she left her purse. She called him a mouth breather. Yeah, I got that. That reminded me of Stranger Things. 
 
 Hadley: Same. I think that might be one of the only other places I've heard that. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, seriously, how often do you hear mouth breather? 
 
 Hadley: It must have been common for a while for it to like be picked up by so many things, but I haven't heard it. Other places so Same. 
 
 Sarah: She pushes Jack down a hill so he doesn't remove the spikes in the road. 
 
 Hadley: And then pretend she's injured and he's like I don't buy it. So she kisses him. I don't know that's happening. The rich guy, tenzy, hits the spikes, crashes into Jack's car, his airbag goes off and his cigarette breaks, which I thought was very funny. So he gets out another one. But by the time he puts that one in his mouth, sigourney Weaver hits the tire, spikes and crashes into him And the other airbag goes off in his car and breaks the cigarette. 
 
 Sarah: Mm-hmm And Angela drives him to the hospital on her flat tires. 
 
 Hadley: I know, that was so funny. 
 
 Sarah: Page goes back to the bar because she forgot her purse again and she finds out Jack owns the bar. 
 
 Hadley: Angela Max, she's Olga at this point. Olga goes to the hospital to visit the old guy, But Page goes to follow Jack And pretend she's an environmentalist. She falls in the mud and she says she's doing research. 
 
 Sarah: I love that she acted like he was following her Me too. We find out he photographed stars. 
 
 Hadley: She can't grasp that they're the ones in the sky and not celebrities, which I thought was very interesting. 
 
 Sarah: They kiss And she runs off and says her name is Jane. I just don't understand why he would kiss her Like she's been so rude. 
 
 Hadley: I know She had a sweet moment of appreciating the stars. Is that enough for you to suddenly kiss her? 
 
 Sarah: I don't know. 
 
 Hadley: This whole movie is a little kind of have to force yourself to believe some of these things. I did like, though, at the end of the stargazing scene where Jack says, oh, five people. I feel like that's a callback to the guy on the boat with you don't have to be a part of a menage a trois, It's a menage a cinq. Olga goes to Tenzie's house and meets the maid. 
 
 Sarah: Miss Madras, i'd be intimidated by her. 
 
 Hadley: Me too. She's played by Nora Dunn. 
 
 Sarah: Also, like I know that Max doesn't want to trust anyone once all the money for herself, like she won't even share with her daughter, and I do like that they end up framing the maid because that's smart to like get her out of it. But like I probably would have just been like, okay, fine, you caught me, let's both con him, like let's team up. I don't know, but I'm also not a con woman. So Also, true, maybe that's not the right call. 
 
 Hadley: I mean, her plan worked. Maybe the more people on your team, the more people that can stab you in the back. That's true. That is true, max, as Olga goes on a date with Tenzie to a Russian restaurant. She accidentally orders steak tartare and the waiter picks up on the fact that she's not Russian. She pays them off And then they invite her up on stage to sing a song because she's trying to leave and the spotlight hits her. They're like every Russian knows this. Instead, she starts singing a song in English about the USSR, and that seems to go over very well. 
 
 Sarah: I did like how she played it off that she didn't know that song. She was like oh, I'm just joking, Because I would have been a deer in headlights. 
 
 Hadley: Same. I'm not set up for the con person life. I would have been like ah, no, me neither. Okay, con over, bye, she's so quick. 
 
 Sarah: She is. There's a golf date with Olga and Tenzie. 
 
 Hadley: Yes, okay, i love the golf cart in the background. I've never seen one like that. Oh, i didn't see it. I've never seen one like that until today. I was driving down Ward Parkway and there was one of the golf carts that looked exactly like this waiting across the road And I was like no, how random. It was so weird. I've never seen one before, and now I've seen two and one in real life. 
 
 Sarah: That's so crazy. I love when stuff like that happens. 
 
 Hadley: Me too. It was like a cute little like truck almost, but a golf cart. Oh, i'll post a picture of it in stories. It was very cute. Tenzie gives her a lighter. He talks about how he thinks smoking is sexy, but in the grossest way possible to describe anything. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, and he gave her the lighter to help entice her to smoke That was gross. I love, though, that she wakes up right away when he says he has a gift for her. 
 
 Hadley: Oh, and then he blows smoke in her face when he's going to go kiss her. 
 
 Sarah: I like that she keeps using religion as a reason to not get too intimate with these men. 
 
 Hadley: Same. I know Dean is pretty scummy, but I thought it was interesting. Now that I'm thinking about it, dean respected her religion thing and Tenzie does not. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, tenzie is a fucking creep He really is. There is nothing redeemable about him, and I'm so sad they didn't get his millions of dollars. Me too. The maid catches her spitting. After their kiss, though, and says she's on to her and doesn't want to be pushed out of the will that she has been vying for for seven years. 
 
 Hadley: She's in it for the long haul, so time to do something about her. Jack and Page are back together again, and he gives her a ring with a meteor in it, which he said is better than a sapphire, because it's been all over the universe. 
 
 Sarah: And that is so cute And I'm so sad that she doesn't appreciate it. 
 
 Hadley: I know I feel like she'll appreciate it a lot by the end of the movie, but at this point I was like, oh, this is the sweetest thing, poor Jack. 
 
 Sarah: Page uses a pointer to open Tenzie's gate. I thought that was genius. I did too. Their plan is to frame the maid with the lighter. Also jewelry and Tenzie's cigarettes. They covered all the bases. I thought it was just going to be the lighter. 
 
 Hadley: I do. And then I was like, oh my gosh, why is she laying down on this other woman's bed? 
 
 Sarah: Yeah. 
 
 Hadley: And then she found the pillowcase full of jewelry. I was like, oh OK, another thing that makes Tenzie gross, which I feel like we should just have a tally going of all the gross things he does. He gives the cop money to slap the maid around, not OK, no. 
 
 Sarah: He just keeps getting worse, like there's not a single redeemable thing about him. 
 
 Hadley: I bet he was really fun to write. It's like OK, how else can we make this guy horrible? Oh, let's do this. 
 
 Sarah: Just keep thinking he's at the limit, and then he goes even lower. 
 
 Hadley: Exactly, Page goes to do an interview to be the new housekeeper at Tenzie's house, but she's going to be late to something with Jack. When they're talking about her becoming the housekeeper, we do find out that they've maybe been there for a month, because a little bit later, when Jack says he's in love with her, i was like how long has this been? 
 
 Sarah: I was like, ok, i know we just found out it's been like a month, but that still seems real, fucking soon. That's someone you've never met before, especially when she seemed to be like such a butt to him the first week, like how many good interactions have they had? 
 
 Hadley: I feel like not very many I want to know more about Jack's history. Same. 
 
 Sarah: Why is he into this girl? 
 
 Hadley: Really, Is it just because she's beautiful? It seems like there's more to it. He seems invested in her and who she is. It's like you don't know anything about this person. It seems like a bit of a jump. 
 
 Sarah: Jack skipped the game so he could tell Page he was in love with her. I didn't understand that. I didn't either. I went go to the game and just tell her after. 
 
 Hadley: Yeah, or like leave her a note, be like. Hey, here's where the game is. 
 
 Sarah: Join us. Don't tell her to meet you at the game. Have cell phones. 
 
 Hadley: They have so far a voicemail Leave her a voicemail. 
 
 Sarah: She has a car. Yeah, have her meet you at the game and tell her you love her there 
 
 Hadley: Also. Why are you hiding, like behind the bar? Yeah, so many questions. 
 
 Sarah: But yeah, I thought it was too soon. 
 
 Hadley : It seemed very soon. It wasn't even like, oh, this one moment happened and she's amazing. It's like you hung out once. She was nice to you, once, kind of. She also pushed you down a hill And popped your tires And threatened to put a shoe up your butt. 
 
 Sarah: Max sees them make out with her binoculars. 
 
 Hadley: Which causes her to confront. Page gets all upset at her for falling for someone because she kissed him with her eyes closed. This made me sad. Just because it worked out one way for Max doesn't mean how it's going to work out for Page. Page goes to prove that she doesn't have feelings for Jack, but she does, And she decides to drop the con. 
 
 Sarah: She tells him she's no good for him And he's like I'll decide that. 
 
 Hadley: But then he's also like you're a good person. It's like you don't know her. You don't know her. 
 
 Sarah: You have no idea who this person is. You don't even know her real name Exactly. 
 
 Hadley: And then Angela or Max or Olga goes and meets up with the lady that was at the IRS, barbara, who she's talked to Page about, but I guess Page hadn't seen her, since she was like three so didn't recognize her. 
 
 Sarah: I was shocked that she conned Page with. 
 
 Hadley: Barbara. I was so disappointed. That made me sad. I was sad and now Page is sad, everyone's sad. Page is dodging Jack. Jack's friends are trying to tell him to give up, but he doesn't want to. Page leaves and Tenzy shows up to the hotel With the restored statue. 
 
 Sarah: Max breaks up with Tenzy because her green card was denied and he says he already had a ring and was going to propose to her. He doesn't seem to know about green cards and how they work. She had to explain it to him. How has no one else conned this man before? 
 
 Hadley: Very true. Maybe no one wanted to. 
 
 Sarah: He is pretty repulsive. Page is sitting in a car and keeps answering her phone without checking the caller ID. 
 
 Hadley: And also like sitting there staring at the bar of the guy you're trying to avoid. Isn't that subtle? Because he shows up and he's like I'm sorry, i startled you with telling you I was in love with you, but let's just get married instead. He's so naive, i know, so she leaves. 
 
 Sarah: I'm not following his logic here. If you scared her by saying I love you, what do you think is going to happen when you say let's get married? Exactly, oh Jack, you're a sweet Jack. 
 
 Hadley: Back at the hotel, Tenzy's all ready to have sex, has a coughing attack, hits his head on the statue penis and dies. 
 
 Sarah: Oh, i missed that. He hit his head. I was like did he just pass out or is he dead? 
 
 Hadley: Oh, i thought he hit his head and then the penis was in his mouth. I remember that part. Yeah, i thought he just like Died and on the way down Brought the penis with him. 
 
 Sarah: I don't know. The whole time, though, i was like is he really dead? until they threw him off the balcony, i was like, well, if he wasn't dead before, he sure is now. 
 
 Hadley: They decide they have to move the body back to his house. Oh my gosh. 
 
 Sarah: Again with the logic. how are they planning to make it look like an accidental death at his house by himself when his body has fallen several stories off of building and then they smash his legs in the car trunk? How would you explain those injuries I have? 
 
 Hadley: no idea. 
 
 Sarah: Sustained after death? That would be obvious. 
 
 Hadley: Oh, that'd be so, so obvious. 
 
 Sarah: I feel like blue bald by the end of this movie because we never find out what happened with Tenzy. 
 
 Hadley: I know, and is no one looking for him, right? 
 
 Sarah: I need a sequel that explains what happened to Tenzy Exactly. 
 
 Hadley: I have so many questions. Dean shows up and he proposes to Max or Angela because he loves her, and the scene is super awkward. 
 
 Sarah: He is too much. 
 
 Hadley: She goes and ties him to the bed in the hotel room and leaves him there and housekeeping shows up. The housekeeper is played by Patricia Belcher, who is in bones and a lot of other things. I like her a lot. There are two wallets, so that's how he knows to go to Tenzy's house. Then everything blows up. Dean comes in, hears the noises, thinks that Angela is hooking up with Tenzy, but Tenzy is actually dead. And then Page walks in and Dean figures out what happened to him and he's like do you know how much therapy people need? 
 
 Sarah: He figured it out surprisingly fast. I thought it would take a little more calculating in his head. 
 
 Hadley: Not quite as dumb as he seems, I guess. Dean threatens to turn them in. He threatens to send them to jail, but I loved that the whole tipping point, the worst part about jail, is the bad lighting. Did he say that or did they say that? He said that He's like and it'll have bad lighting. 
 
 Sarah: That's the real sinker. 
 
 Hadley: But he decides to take care of the situation because he says he's from Jersey, so he knows what to do. I'd love a whole Dean hiding the body covering up Tenzy's death movie. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, I want to know what he did. 
 
 Hadley: How does no one come looking for him ? 
 
 Sarah: For real. I feel like there's got to be some distant relatives knocking down the door trying to get his inheritance. Max offers to refund Dean for his help, but when they go to the bank, someone closed her account yesterday. Barbara stole all of the money. I did not suspect Barbara the first time, but I thought this was a con. I thought Max and Barbara had teamed up and Max enlisted Barbara to empty out the accounts so that she wouldn't have to pay Dean and she wouldn't have to share her money with the page. I do too, especially when she was crying about being a terrible mother. I was like how is Page falling for this act? 
 
 Hadley: Well, i love what Page says. She's like oh, you finally see things clearly. Page is going to conjack into marriage to get to force money And she gets Dean to help, because this is how they're going to pay Dean back. Jack announces the marriage but says he isn't going to sell the bar in the land because whoever wanted to buy it bought land on the road, so they didn't want his land anymore. It seems like Page is going to back out, but then Max and Dean come in and push the whole thing. They pretend to be her second cousins. 
 
 Hadley: And then they go out on a boat and Dean decides to fish by shooting at the fish. Imagine if you met your fiance's family and one of them is hitting on you and one of them is shooting fish. 
 
 Sarah: I'd be like, huh, maybe I don't know this person after all, I'd have more questions. 
 
 Hadley: They go get married at the beach. This is like really fast. at the reception, though, dean says he's a college professor. I'm like really, out of all the things you could have picked, you picked a college professor. 
 
 Sarah: That job prompts follow up questions And he doesn't have the answers. It's so sad when Max is ready to move forward with the con and Page says it won't work. 
 
 Hadley: He loves me too much, I felt so bad for Page, They go to the hotel room and he set up a starry night in their hotel room. 
 
 Sarah: I was like, oh he does love her And she says she loves him and he seems like this is the first time she has ever said that They got married, before she ever said I love you. 
 
 Hadley: We need another movie about Jack's backstory For real, like Childhood. 
 
 Sarah: Forward. Yes, i need a prequel with Jack's background. 
 
 Hadley: What was that movie? The one where it follows the kid like through their life? essentially, we need that for Jack Born to now. What happened? Oh boyhood. 
 
 Sarah: Is that what it was? 
 
 Hadley: called Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. 
 
 Sarah: I need a version of that about Jack. 
 
 Hadley: And he can tell it in my name is Earl Style. That's fine. 
 
 Sarah: We have so many great movie ideas. 
 
 Hadley: We really do. We should just start a movie studio. 
 
 Sarah: For real, i mean with how rapidly AI is developing. Have you seen those beer commercials and the pizza commercials? 
 
 Hadley: Yeah, They are so funny. Imagine like that's what survives when someone comes and finds the wreckage of our civilization. And they're like these skeletons don't match these. What do these people do.?
 
 Sarah: I love that AI can't seem to figure out how mouth is work Such a mystery. 
 
 Hadley: Those ads are so funny. I like watch the beer one on repeat, just trying to figure out what moral was happening. 
 
 Sarah: The pizza one is amazing. Page falls asleep and cries when he leaves. 
 
 Hadley: Max brings Jack to her room saying she's a gift for him. 
 
 Sarah: I really like this shimmery green shawl she has on. I do too. 
 
 Hadley: The outfits in this movie are very good. 
 
 Sarah: I'm really happy that fashion from the 90s and aughts has come back. 
 
 Hadley: Me too. There were a lot of things I loved. I'm very happy I can wear them again. 
 
 Sarah: Except for low rise jeans. 
 
 Hadley: Yes, i will never wear those, never. I never wore very low rise jeans. My mom was really against it. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, same. I always had like mid rise. 
 
 Hadley: I always wanted low rise and I'm so glad that my mom didn't let me wear low rise jeans. Same Thank you, mom, for not letting me buy those pants. As page is waiting to find out what's happening with Max and Jack. She's scrolling through the channels and Dean comments on it and she throws the remote and Dean just moves his head slightly as the remote shatters on the wall And I thought that was hilarious. I'm a big fan of Dean. I know he kind of sucks, but I'm really glad he's in this movie. 
 
 Sarah: I enjoy his dynamic with Page and Max. 
 
 Hadley: Me too. I think they're going to be a very interesting family dynamic. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah. 
 
 Hadley: Another spin off. 
 
 Sarah: Page walks in on Jack shirtless in bed with her mom. 
 
 Hadley: But he's like clearly confused about what's happening, and then they get divorced. 
 
 Sarah: At the divorce proceedings he says give her whatever she wants And he keeps saying he doesn't know what happened. 
 
 Hadley: Maybe talk to him about this if you love him. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, but I also understand her feeling betrayed and like she's heard her whole life from her mom that men are terrible, like all men are terrible, and you can't trust a man. and she like fell for it in her version of the story. I think no matter what he said, it wouldn't have mattered until her mom admitted that she drugged him. 
 
 Hadley: I totally agree. If I were Page and had lived Page's life, I would have done the same thing. Max and Dean talk it out while they're waiting for Page to get the money. Dean actually loved her, which was really sweet. Max admits to drugging Jack and Dean calls her out for cheating Page and him out of a decent future, cheating people that she cares about out of happiness. 
 
 Sarah: I like that he called her out. I liked all of his little nuggets of wisdom here that I think he got from Deepak Chopra. 
 
 Hadley: I think so too. 
 
 Sarah: She was like what self help book did you get this from? 
 
 Hadley: He had some good stuff. Like you know, with love comes pain. 
 
 Sarah: You can't protect people from pain, because then they won't experience love. 
 
 Hadley: And for most people the love is worth the pain. Good job, dean, listening to Deepak Chopra. 
 
 Sarah: He gets through to her and she tells Page that Jack did turn her down and she drugged him. 
 
 Hadley: And that Max wanted to protect Page, but now wants Page to find her own ways to get hurt without Max being the one hurting her. 
 
 Sarah: So she doesn't get blamed, which is good. I'm glad she has this growth as a character and as a mom Me too. 
 
 Hadley: Also, can you imagine Sigourney Weaver not knowing how to drive and then having to do these scenes where Jennifer loves you? it's like attacking her and freaking out in the car. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, i need to go back and rewatch those scenes now, knowing that Sigourney Weaver couldn't drive. 
 
 Hadley: My driver's ed teacher told very loud stories when we were driving and like very animated, so I got very used to that kind of thing in the car but it was startling at first. 
 
 Sarah: Oh, I didn't do driver's ed, I just had my mom teach me and she wouldn't let me have the radio on or anything. she was like no distractions, Which is probably a good call. 
 
 Hadley: My mom tried to teach me. She taught me pretty well, but in Illinois you have to do a certain amount of driver's ed. 
 
 Sarah: That should honestly be required. It would be safer for everyone. 
 
 Hadley: When I came to Missouri and realized that wasn't a thing, i was like, oh, this makes sense Not saying everyone in Illinois is a good driver. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of bad drivers there too. But it feels like everyone in Missouri just kind of like makes up their own rules a little bit. Yep, especially around St Louis, kansas City drivers are not great, but St Louis drivers are insane. And then you go to Columbia, missouri, where I went to college, and you get a little confluence of everybody and it's a nightmare. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, i haven't really driven in St Louis before, but you're not making it sound appealing, do? 
 
 Hadley: not recommend When you're on the highway. if you're going 10 miles over, you're going slow. 
 
 Sarah: Oh my god. 
 
 Hadley: And then you have a lot of trucks with balls that pass you Ew. 
 
 Sarah: The only thing that makes me smile about trucks with balls is the idea of telling someone that their truck is trans because they had to put balls on it. I love that. If you're going to gender your car, I hope you know that it's trans because you're giving it genitalia that it didn't have before. 
 
 Hadley: I love that so much. 
 
 Sarah: I just love how much that would upset them. 
 
 Hadley: They'd be furious. 
 
 Sarah: I hope they would go rip those balls off their truck. 
 
 Hadley: I hope so too. Max goes to Dean and they're actually going to be married as long as he stops sleeping around and she stops conning, except for one last con that she asks him to do. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, they con Barbara That was fantastic. I was surprised that Barbara actually did take her money. I really thought that was a con they were both in on together. 
 
 Hadley: Sounds like Barbara was Max's mother figure essentially. Oh. So if Barbara would do that to Max, it makes sense to me that Max would do that to Page. 
 
 Sarah: Mm-hmm. 
 
 Hadley: Max seemed very surprised that that's what Barbara did. So I don't know. Page goes to give everything back to Jack. His friends are so supportive of her. Mm-hmm What. 
 
 Sarah: Did anybody wanted to point out to him that these might be red flags? 
 
 Hadley: Oh, you divorced Jack, but you want to get back with him now and throw him a party. They're just blindly supportive. I mean cool. But at the same time I want my friends to like say something. I guess they do try to say it. Maybe move on from her, but Sarah Silverman liked her. Page tells Jack that her name is actually Page And then we know nothing else about what happens. Yeah, and it drives me up a wall. It's over. Did they get together? Is all forgiven? I'm sure he's totally cool with all that. 
 
 Sarah: I mean yeah, Based on the track record, I feel like he forgave her. But I want to know, that for sure. So I'm not left hanging. 
 
 Hadley: I want to know that they're good And I also want to know how the con between Dean and Barbara and Max goes. Mm-hmm, does he marry her? Does she like? is she onto it? I have so many questions. 
 
 Sarah: My biggest questions are what happened with Tinsey? 
 
 Hadley: Yes, I want the like unsolved murder Netflix series about this. 
 
 Sarah: Yes, where does someone's money go if that happens, if he just disappears? 
 
 Hadley: This will be an interesting Google search. If Okay, what happens if someone's finances, if they go missing Nothing? It sounds like they just kind of live in limbo. That's so crazy. 
 
 Sarah: I wonder if there's a set amount of time that someone would have to be missing for before their finances would be redistributed. 
 
 Hadley: I think after a certain amount of time you get declared dead. Oh, okay, Let's Google that. You're going to have an interesting search history. Okay. Several criteria are evaluated to determine whether a person may be declared legally dead. The party normally must have been missing from their home or usual residence for an extended period, most commonly seven years. 
 
 Sarah: Did you have any other trivia we didn't cover. 
 
 Hadley: Oh, I'll read it straight from IMDB The most expensive shot in the movie was when Jennifer Love-Hewitt leaned against the car to talk to Ray Leota near the end of the movie, Because it was cold on set. She had a white sweatshirt around her waist that was in the shot and had to be digitally taken out. 
 
 Sarah: What? Oh my God, i need to see this. That is so interesting. It's at 135, if you want to watch it, and you can find this movie on HBO Max, which is becoming just Max apparently. 
 
 Hadley: Oh, that seems dumb. 
 
 Sarah: That is dumb. Why would you take out the HBO part? Why wouldn't you take out the Max part and just be HBO? 
 
 Hadley: Huh, that's exciting. When Jennifer Love-Hewitt was asked if there was a reboot of Heartbreakers, who would be a good Max and Page, she said that she would cast Jennifer Lopez and Jenna Ortega. 
 
 Sarah: Ooh, I would love that. I would watch that Me too, I freaking love Jennifer Lopez's movie enough. Oh, i don't think I've seen that. It's good. You should definitely watch it. It's a crime drama, thriller. 
 
 Hadley: Oh, juliette Lewis, isn't it? I love her. 
 
 Sarah: She marries a guy who she finds out is anything but perfect, and then he tracks down her and her daughter and I think she has to kill him. Spoiler alert Oh, no son, but based on that movie I feel like she'd be great in a con movie and I love Jenna Ortega, so I think they'd be great. I'm glad this movie stood the test of time. I'm pretty sure Tinsey was gross when it first aired too, so nothing really aged badly. 
 
 Hadley: I hope there's no world where Tinsey was okay Yeah. 
 
 Sarah: But yeah, it's not often that we get a good movie from that long ago. That hasn't aged badly. 
 
 Hadley: I thought this one was good. I'd never heard of it before. 
 
 Sarah: I had only seen this movie once when I was younger, but I remember liking the premise and I still do. But I am so sad they didn't get Tinsey's money no-transcript. 
 
 Hadley: I was happily surprised by it. I had no idea what to expect and I liked it. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, it was good. It's a good fun rom-com with some crime, crime-com, crime-rom-com. Rom-com, crime, rom-crime-com. What's like a kitschy way to fit crime in with rom-com Crime-com. 
 
 Hadley: Rom-crime. They all sound bad. They all make me think of like cronut or like some kind of dessert Pastry. Now I want a cronut Rom-com crime pastry. Do you want to do what we're watching? 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, tell me what you're watching. 
 
 Hadley: Okay, so I watched Queen Charlotte on Netflix, the Bridgerton continuation, and then I'm also finally watching the third season of Dead to Me, totally hooked. I did my big mistake of starting it at night. I have four episodes left. 
 
 Sarah: Wait, what's the third season? Is that the most recent one? 
 
 Hadley: I think it's the most recent and final. It's very good. 
 
 Sarah: Haven't been watching any TV shows, but I have started going to this queer movie night each week and we watched Bring It On Seven Cheer or Die Because. I guess I got tired of normal cheerleader competition movies, so they had to make one into a slasher. 
 
 Hadley: I mean to be honest, i didn't know that there were seven of them and I could see that eventually they do turn slasher. 
 
 Sarah: Yeah, i didn't know there were seven either. I had previously only seen the first three, which everyone I keep talking to has mostly only seen two, so I guess I made it further than most. 
 
 Hadley: You made it further than anyone I know. 
 
 Sarah: Because the first one is Kirsten Dunn's right, Yeah. And then the second one is Hayden Panitier, and they do that stupid crumping. Oh, I'm sure crumping is actually not stupid, It just looks stupid. when Hayden Panitier tried to do it It really did. Oh, and Solange Knowles was also in that second one. And then Ashley Benson from Pretty Little Liars, before she was on Pretty Little Liars, was in the third one. The seventh one, the slasher one. the only person I recognized in that movie played Pauly on Riverdale. She played Betty's sister Pauly. That's really all I've watched lately. 
 
 Hadley: I totally just got it in my head after you said after they've run out of so many things to do, they'll make a slasher one Fast and furious slasher movie. Because they won't stop making those movies. 
 
 Sarah: Yes, i love that idea that once you've made like five movies in a franchise, you should make a slasher. That should just be an industry-wide requirement. Yes, if you make it to that many, one of them has to be a slasher. 
 
 Hadley: Exactly, Otherwise you can't make any more. 
 
 Sarah: I haven't been watching anything else, but I have been listening to a podcast that I really love. It's called On Attachment and it's by an Australian relationship coach. The accent helps keep me invested, but also the content is very interesting. She talks a lot about different attachment styles and relationship advice and just how to better handle your attachment style and your partner's attachment style. I've been binging that. It's very good. Would very much recommend. 
 
 Hadley: That sounds really good. I'm trying to catch up on all my podcasts and stuff. with COVID I had no interest in listening to things, watching things or reading things. I was so sick. I was just like I'm just going to lay here and fall in and out of sleep. So now I'm starting to catch up on things. Our song pairing for this movie is Man Eater by Nellie Furtado. It seems super appropriate for these two women who are making men fall in love with them and conning them out of their money. 
 
 Sarah: We just sang that this week for karaoke. Oh nice, because the theme was Heroes and Villains. And then I sang a solo of You'll Be Back from Hamilton. How'd that go? It was fine. I was super anxious, but one of my teammates videoed it and I don't look anxious So well, that's good. Goodness, i am good at hiding it, but this whole singing thing has made it easier for me to talk during work meetings without feeling anxious. So that was the main goal anyway. 
 
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